From:	Peter Shenkin 
Sent:	Thursday, January 04, 2001 11:55 PM
To:	Richard Blalock
Subject: Re: more shenkin info

Hi,

I asked my aunt and uncle in Florida (born 1905 and 1913, respectively) about Jacob and Bosha.  The names were not familiar, but he said it's always possible they were related.

There was an Abraham Shenkin who lived in Brooklyn who was my grandfather's half brother.

-P.

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From:	Peter Shenkin 
Sent:	Monday, December 18, 2000 1:02 PM
To:	Richard Blalock
Subject:	RE: shenkin family

Hi,

I was doing a bit of research on my own.  It turns out that the
Rabbi of Chashniki between about 1880 and 1912 was one
Shlomo Zalman Shenkin.

Anyway, I'll see my elderly aunt in a few days, and will ask
her about Jacob and Basha.

-P.

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On Mon, 18 Dec 2000, Richard Blalock wrote:


Peter,
 
I just got a huge package in the mail from some relatives that show a
detailed history.  Interestingly enough it says that the Shenkins settled in
Harlem when they came to this country around 1908.
 
It says that Jacob Isaac Shenkin was born in 1840.  He was the personal
representative of construction over all Russia under the command of the
Czar.  Jacob met and married Rebecca "Basha" Steen in 1861.  She was a
beautiful and talented violinist who was the only daughter of an Orthodox
Rabbi.  Together they had 4 sons Nathan, Max, Herman, Herbert, and four
daughters Bessie, Lily, Sonya (Sadie) and Mollie.  All of the sons became
architects and builders.  They were all born in Minsk, a region of White
Russia, non-independent Belarus, formally the Soviet republic of
Byelorussia.
 
With our families both being from the same area with the same last name,
settling in Harlem, there has got to be a connection.  Perhaps you family is
related to Jacob. Maybe a brother or a cousin.

You mentioned Max before.  I am not sure when he was born.  However, it was
probably between 1880 and 1895.  Jacob Isaac Shenkin's son Max died in 1955
and was married to a woman named Tilly who in turn had children named
Mildred "Tutzi", Beatrice, and Stanley.  I imagine that this is not the same
Max.  However, it is worth checking.
 
I am still convinced that we are all related.  We are probably related to
those other 4 groups of shenkins that you mentioned, only farther back.
Also there are large populations of shenkins in Scotland and England.  I
even found a similar name who attend Oxford in the 1200's.  I am sure that
Shenkin could occur in archaic English or some Celtic derivative easily
enough.  It doesn't guarantee a connection.

Regards,

Richard 

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From:	Peter Shenkin 
Sent:	Sunday, December 17, 2000 5:01 PM
To:	Richard Blalock
Subject:	Re: more shenkin info

Hi,

I think I've been in touch with those folks before, but no, no
connection.

Thanks,
-P.

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From: "Richard Blalock" 
To: Peter Shenkin
Sent: Sunday, December 17, 2000 6:24 PM
Subject: FW: more shenkin info


Peter,

I just got this letter regarding a shenkin family.  I can't
connect it to ours yet.  Sounds more like your family.  Do you recognize this
....  His email address is on the bottom. 

Regards,

Richard

Thank you.

We corresponded last month & I promised to send you a photo - not yet sent but will try to send it soon.

You sent me a photo of Sadie & two of her siblings.  That means they too must be Shenkins.  What are there names?  Which is Sadie?

I am not aware of any connection between these two Shenkin families. Ours lived in Dvinsk (also known as Dunaberg and renamed Daugavpils) in Latvia where they ran an Inn.  The father of the family was named Leib (Yehuda Leib) Shenkin and he married Bunne Leizerowitz, (b.
1843?) had 9 children, and died quite young.  He was a scholarly & religious man, studying in the attic while Bunne ran the Inn.

Children:   Kasriel (Israel, "Big William", "Tony")
            Leaser (Lyons) (Eliezer ben Yehuda Leyv) 1866?-1903
            Chayah  1868-1961
            Choneh (Elchanan, Hymon, Chaim)  1867-1934
            Bessie (Pessel)
            William 1873-1938
            Eatel (Eitel)  1880?-1965
            Rochel  1881?-1969
            Barnett 1882-1950?

Please let me know where your Shenkin family lived and
what you know of their names, dates, occupations etc.

I am hoping to commission some research back in Latvia so
the more I know first, the better!  Thanks.  Selwyn Torrance



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From:	Peter Shenkin [shenkin@mindspring.com]
Sent:	Tuesday, December 12, 2000 10:00 PM
To:	rblalock@inktomi.com
Subject:	Re: shenkin family

Hi,

Where did they live in NY?

Also, my grandparents were about 40 years younger than Jacob and
Bosha, though they immigrated around the same time.

For what it's worth, my father's name was Max (Mordechai), and he
had a brother named Alex.

The only possible connection I can think of is that your Max was
my father's grandfather (since he was named after his
grandfather);  the dates could be about right.  Do you know the
names of any of the descendents of the children of Jacob and
Bosha -- especially Max?

I have to say that I've been through this, over the internet and
otherwise, with at least four different groups of Shenkins.  I
could find no connection in any of these cases.

It's rather odd that Jacob should have been called Isaac, since
Hebrew for Jacob is Yaakov and Hebrew for Isaac is Yitzhak.

-P.

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From: 
To: Peter Shenkin
Sent: Tuesday, December 12, 2000 6:10 PM
Subject: Re: shenkin family


I think that there may be a connection.  An 87 year old relative who knew Jacob said that they were from the Minsk area.  He indicated that Jacob was an employee of the Czar and was in charge of constructing buildings.

All of his male children went into the same trade in America. All of the boys were tall, large men.

The parents and all of the children were from Russia.  He also kept referring to Jacob as Isaac which may have been a nickname or middle name.

I imagine that Shenkin is an uncommon enough name, that when coupled with the Minsk and New York connection around the turn of the century, that we are possibly related.

They were definitely Russian Jews.  Some of them maintained strong religious convictions while others where less concerned with Synagogue.

Jacob "Isaac" (born circa 1840) and Bosha Shenkin (born circa 1843) had the following children.  Bosha's birth year is probably wrong because she would have been 55 when she had Mollie.

Alex Shenkin
Herman Shenkin
Lillie Shenkin
Max Shenkin
Morris Shenkin
Bessie Shenkin b 1880
Nathan Shenkin b 1884
Sonya Sadie Shenkin b 1885
Mollie Shenkin b 1898

As I said before we suspect that they came to America around 1908 and settled in New York.  It is possible that they all did not come on the same trip.

Best Regards,

Richard Blalock

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From: Peter Shenkin 
Sent: Tuesday, December 12, 2000 2:44 PM
To: rblalock@inktomi.com
Cc: shenkin@Mindspring.com
Subject: Re: shenkin family

Hi,

A better e-dress to use for this sort of thing is shenkin@mindspring.com.

I know of no Jacob and Bosha Shenkin in my ancestry.  I descend from
Samuel and Rasha Shenkin who came to this country around the time
you mention.  They came from "Chesnik" (now called Chashniki), near
Vitebsk (which in turn is near Minsk) in what is now Belarus.
They came to New York, and lived first on the Lower East Side,
then in what is now Spanish Harlem, then in the Bronx.

I can ask some of my relatives if they know of a Jacob and Bosha Shenkin.

-P.

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Date: Tue, 12 Dec 2000 13:58:13 -0800 (PST)
From: rblalock@inktomi.com
To: Peter Shenkin
Subject: still  your address

Peter,

I am a descendant of Jacob and Bosha Shenkin who came to America from
Russia around 1908.  I am doing research on the Shenkin family.

Is this your correct email address and do you know any info on your
ancestors?  I would love to hear from you.

Regards,

Richard Blalock